A few more clauses to add to H. RES. 888

[Another draft I’m just publishing as-is]


The word “egregious” comes to mind. “Fucknut” is not far behind it.

A few more important moments in American History that need be mentioned in the resolution, if this is really meant to be about History:

LDS on evolution

I recently spent part of an evening with a young couple of whom the wife was a science teacher.

During our conversation she expressed some frustration about the idea of religious fundamentalists in our country making it difficult to teach what she knew as fact- that the (mostly Darwinian) theory of evolution provides the best known explanation for biological diversity in general. I did not get an opinion from her on the theory of evolution as it relates to the origins of humans in particular.

I found very little to disagree about with her on this question.

What makes this interesting is that she and her husband are (at least nominally and to the best of my knowledge) faithful members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (the mainline LDS church that runs Utah and Idaho).

I had to restrain myself out of politeness from telling her that (contrary to her voiced opinion) the church – if not the prophet specifically – has voiced an opinion on the question of biological evolution. And that she’d contradicted it.

My references:

The Pattern of Our Parentage – Elder Boyd K. Packer of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles

The Origin of Man

“I remember when I was a college student there were great discussions on the question of organic evolution. I took classes in geology and biology and heard the whole story of Darwinism as it was then taught. I wondered about it. I thought much about it. But I did not let it throw me, for I read what the scriptures said about our origins and our relationship to God. Since then I have become acquainted with what to me is a far more important and wonderful kind of evolution. It is the evolution of men and women as the sons and daughters of God, and of our marvelous potential for growth as children of our Creator.”
—President Gordon B. Hinckley, “God Hath Not Given Us the Spirit of Fear,” Ensign, Oct. 1984, 5.

By the way, it turns out that their prophet is not obligated to answer any questions on this position, but simply gets to claim full ownership of “The Truth” without needing any background knowledge on any subject. The summary follows (emphasis mine):

In conclusion let us summarize this grand key, these “Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet”, for our salvation depends on them.
1. The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.
2. The living prophet is more vital to us than the standard works.
3. The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet.
4. The prophet will never lead the church astray.
5. The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time.
6. The prophet does not have to say “Thus Saith the Lord,” to give us scripture.
7. The prophet tells us what we need to know, not always what we want to know.
8. The prophet is not limited by men’s reasoning.
9. The prophet can receive revelation on any matter, temporal or spiritual.
10. The prophet may advise on civic matters.
11. The two groups who have the greatest difficulty in following the prophet are the proud who are learned and the proud who are rich.
12. The prophet will not necessarily be popular with the world or the worldly.
13. The prophet and his counselors make up the First Presidency—the highest quorum in the Church.
14. The prophet and the presidency—the living prophet and the First Presidency—follow them and be blessed—reject them and suffer.

I testify that these fourteen fundamentals in following the living prophet are true. If we want to know how well we stand with the Lord then let us ask ourselves how well we stand with His mortal captain—how close do our lives harmonize with the Lord’s anointed—the living Prophet—President of the Church, and with the Quorum of the First Presidency.

May God bless us all to look to the Prophet and the Presidency in the critical and crucial days ahead is my prayer.

Some more reasons why I will not be joining the LDS church.

Jesus was a liberal

And the “Jesus is on my side” crowd is universally full of shit. Wish I could say the Democrats were significantly better.

All I guess we can do is make sure that every single homosexual, swinger, pot smoker, Mexican, Muslim, scientist, human rights advocate, pacifist, nonreligious, or environmentalist votes for the farthest-left candidate who actually has a chance.

And encourage every stalwart Republican to vote Ron Paul at the primaries, just to throw off that 51% majority teh sheep have otherwise. He hasn’t really got a chance but it’ll send a message to the theocrats to knock this shit off next time.

The “Values Voters Summit”

I just can’t believe this actually happened, and that these nitwits are still being taken seriously as candidates for the presidency of the most powerful nation, ever. (Better coverage at goodasyou.org). All for their ability to pander to a crowd over moral panic issues .
Take for example Fred Thompson’s position on the judicial system. I’m not making this up, see the video in which he promises to make a constitutional amendment to limit the power of the judicial branch of the United States Government. His reason? Moral panic about “Judges legislating from the Bench”. This man refuses to understand that the separation of powers was designed specifically to stop tyranny from any one branch. Considering that it takes a lot more education, a much better understanding of “the rule of law”, and presumably a better grasp of how to separate bullshit from the truth, to become a Judge than to become a Congressman or President, I feel we should be handing the courts more power, not permanently taking power from them.

My only hope at this point is that the Republican/NeoCon vote will be split so at least we’ll have a President who’s interested in the affairs of the world we actually live in, rather than some imaginary one where it’s a good idea to enforce “the sanctity of life” and other bullshit issues by power of law.

Actually there is some hope for this: the straw poll at the “Value Voters Summit” has Romney winning. CNN has him trailing Guiliani by a big margin.

Food for thought: if our laws were all made by majority rule based on “values” (as interpreted from teh pulpit out of teh damn bible) back in the 1860s, Romney’s LDS church would have been crushed by the ruling church of the time, and laws passed to justify the action. Put that in your pipe and feel self-righteous about not smoking it!

Grrrr, I don’t have the time to go through all of this and make a good, coherent posting (yes I have a life), but let me just say that if these are the grounds upon which our population decides its next President, then there’s a lot of doom forthcoming. Try googling the term “dark ages”.

Are you kidding me?

Found a new blurb in something I mentioned earlier by the unbelievably stupid Chuck Norris. The quote:

If we are ever to restore civility in our land and our schools, we must turn back the clocks to a time when such shocking crimes didn’t even exist – when we valued life and respected one another much more then we do today. We must use the Bible (humanity’s blueprint for life and ”bluebook” for value) to retrain our youth about theirs and others’ value as children of God, made in His image.

Turn back the clocks to a time when such shocking crimes didn’t even exist? Are you fucking joking? The old testament you claim as a history text is strongly focused on genital mutilation, wars, genocides, incest, rape, prostitution, deception, human sacrifice, and literal wrestling with god! The high point of the new testament is the torture and murder of a traveling preacher, against whom the closest thing to a legal claim is that he preached on the sabbath.

The foundation of modern xianity is based on a reframing of that guy’s teachings by a Roman citizen who never met him. And we want to use this as the foundation of our culture in a time when we have guns?
Yes, let’s go back to the days of stoning disobedient children, shunning the sick, and prayer for healing. I sure would like to be able to rape a young woman if she rejects me, pay her father a pittance, then legally keep her as my wife. And if I decide I don’t like or can’t afford my daughters, perhaps it really is in their best interest that I should sell her into biblically sanctioned servitude. That, by the way, is just a nice word for “slavery”, and would most likely become “sexual slavery”, which I suppose could be fun for the girls.

And I really love the idea of “us” vs. “them” mentality, especially when we get to claim the deity is on our side, and that we are persecuted if our preconceived notions of morality conflict with someone else’s. It’s a great system to teach respect for life and keeping the peace in god‘s kingdom.

The biblical times were the good old days? Not fucking likely, Chuck.


Another vote for the god of abraham

… being a condescending, sanctimonious dick. I bet the followers will read this nonsense from Kent Hovind and take it as a literal transcription of a conversation with the big man in the sky.

He does a real good job playing the persecuted christian, and I’m sure this screed will win over about three hearts and a mind, but that still doesn’t make a word of his ministry true.

Thanks to PZ Myers.